Do Actions Really Speak Louder than Words?
Maybe we can apply that phrase to TTRC Chair CT Alexander’s Letter to the Editor in this week’s Main Line Suburban Life. Mr. Alexander claims that he signed the ePetition for the reinstatement of the firefighters budget cut, when we now know that his name does not appear on the list. On one hand, Mr. Alexander publically speaks of his support for the firefighters at the December 21 Board of Supervisors meeting and in his position as Chair of the Tredyffrin Township Republican Committee he commits $5,000 in matching funds to the firefighters. (It appears from my correspondence with Mr. Alexander, that his organization has almost completed their $5,000 committment). So, . . . do we want to believe that Mr. Alexander was not using his position as Chair of TTRC in a politicizing manner but want to believe his actions were pure and out of support for the fire department?
Then on the other hand, in his Letter to the Editor, I quote Mr. Alexander, ” . . . From earlier shows I remember Bill’s encouragement to sign an Internet petition in favor of re-instatement of the Berwyn Fire Company’s budget cut from the [Tredyffrin] township’s 2010 budget. I signed that petition and added that I had a plan. . . “ We know now that Bill DeHaven never spoke of the ePetition on any of his Good, Bad and Ugly shows. But we have further learned that the Firefighter’s Support ePetition does not contain CT Alexander’s name as he claims in the Letter to the Editor. Not to “beat an old horse” myself as Mr. Alexander suggested of Bill DeHaven, is there significance in the words that Mr. Alexander wrote? Does it matter that Mr. Alexander apparently did not speak the truth when he wrote his letter? Or, is it just important that he made good on his promise and delivered most of the TTRC’s $5,000 donation to the firefighters?
I am trying to understand the motive behind Mr. Alexander’s words but maybe the motive doesn’t matter . . . You decide.
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Little C.T. will never understand the meaning of principle before politics.
The motive for CT is always about politics – and getting Warren Kampf elected to the state house. But let’s set that aside for a moment… C.T. Alexander is a liar. There is simply no other word to describe him. He made a factual assertion (in writing) that turned out to not be true. That makes him a liar. I sent CT an email and asked him why he lied. So far, he has not answered.
Let’s get back to Warren..Apparently, CT is working for Warren’s campaign. Warren is now on notice that a liar is working on his campaign. This liar also happens to be chair of the TTRC. Warren, for the record, is also the local and state committee man. What can we conclude? Warren and the TTRC, until we hear otherwise, supports and endorses lying to the public. In fact, we can extend this to Bob Lamina and Paul Olson as well. Whether you lie or participate in somebody else’s lying, the distinction does not matter. When I say that these are bad people, this is precisely what I am talking about. The corruption of the BAWG, the fire funding fiasco, etc. There is but one common denominator in the the entire mess. That common denominator is CT Alexander. He truly is the GOP puppet master.
The big question I have is how long will the good people in the TTRC (and there are good people) continue to tolerate this shameful behavior. Somebody like CT would be the first to tell you what a bad person I am. I just happen to be the guy who speaks the truth about his tactics. The real fact of the matter is that him and those like him are cowards. They are back stabbers. They will sell us all down the river for a political end. Everything we have seen over the past few months that has brought dishonor on this community originates from the political stunts that guys like CT and Warren have engaged in. Whether it is CT from the one side of the room or Warren from the BOS side, we have been thoroughly screwed over by these people. And Bob appears to be committed to keeping the viral strain alive.
And who is the progenitor of all of this? CT Alexander. Let me be clear, in case I have not been… CT Alexander is a cancerous tumor on this community. Fortunatly, it is a tumor that could probably be excised with little difficulty. If CT had any honor or class, he would simply resign from the TTRC, from Kampf’s campaign, and simply fade away to the shadows.
Think about it..a guy like CT Alexander has the audacity to call out somebody like Bill DeHaven over the fire service. That is crazy..and lends to the belief that perhaps, CT is a few cards short of a full deck.
I invite any TTRC committee person, Warren, Bob, Paul, and/or CT himself to debate me on the matter. None of them man up because they know their arguments would be kicked so hard back into their jaw they wouldn’t know what hit them.
Guys like CT runing amuck, treating our community like his own fiefdom is what really pisses me off…
Thanks Pattye for hosting the discussion and the debate….
“I signed that petition and added that I had a plan”
I remember seeing his name on there and in his comments he did write something… it doesn’t appear to be there now.
Who’s is the admin of the petition and would they have any possible reason to remove his entry?
I don’t know the administrator of the petition nor can I imagine why there would be reason to remove name(s).
I know that I just went back through all 500+ names to double-check and make sure that Mr. Alexander’s name was not on the list – and I didn’t find it.
Pattye.. this is total nonsense. Phil and Michelle signed it – and their names have remained. I followed this list very carefully. I would have noticed C.T.’s entry – and I would have written about it.
I love it when anonymous people post self serving comments. Yea…that lends credibility That sort of response was predictable…
John, After reading many of your posts on here, I have come to the conclusion that you may need an anger management class. From where I stand, I see a group ( the TTRC) and members of the board of supervisors who came up with a solution to a budget crisis to help fund the shortfall in funding for the fire department. While I agree that the services the fire department are invaluable to our community and should never be short changed, you must also agree that this recession has been extrordinary, the depth of which nobody could have foreseen and calls for solutions that need creativity. John, at the same time the TTRC and the board were raising money in the community to help, I ask you – what were you doing except complaining and criticizing on these boards. Difficult times like this call for action – not name calling. I challenge you to work positively and help us make this a better community. The people in T/E and really accross this country are starting to realize that government can’t provide for your every need and we need to do more as individuals to make things work.
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Jim..
Stated most simply, you don’t have a clue what you are talking about. This is sport for me…dealing with people like you that try to take me on – trying to convince me of your BS. This is fun for me – exposing some in the TTRC for the intellectual lightweights they are…
Please…don’t insult my intelligence telling me what the TTRC has done re: fire funding. You can run all that BS by me you want. In reality, I probably know better how the TTRC works than you do. In fact, I am sure of it.
You support a liar in C.T. Alexander as the spokesman and leader of your organization.
Last word, that budget crisis you are talking about, and specifically the fire funding, that was a self imposed crisis from OLK. You know…if they had put as much time into the fire funding issue as trying to carry water for St. Davids or in trying to cover up the BAWG mess, there may not have been a crisis. Go ahead Jim…chew on that one.
You may want to chat with your fellow TTRC committee man Rob Betts (BAWG Member) about engaging me in a debate. Didn’t work out to well for him.
Now…if you want to engage me on the substantive issues, then do that. Leave your BS CT Alexander rhetoric at home…
Anon remembers seeing C.T.’s name on the e-petition –
in his/her dreams.
bc it never appeared on the petition. All those who signed and confirmed their signatures (a 2-step process) were automatically added to the list. No one was eliminated. This is a confirmable fact.
And why would anyone wish to remove Alexander’s name from the petition? It would have represented a small victory for those supporting the restoration of fire/ambulance funding to its 2009 level.
Maybe Pattye is right, that it doesn’t matter that much if C.T. signed it or not since most of the money has been collected.
But it matters to me that the head of the local Republican Party felt the need to lie about this. It was totally unnecessary and so easily disproven – except in the alternate reality that is the local Fox News world……where one person’s claim that he/she “saw it” is enough to create doubt…..
An BTW, Mr. Bailey, please get over your sense that the TTRC and the BOS came up with a solution. Unless you consider mobilizing for major damage control after a tone-deaf, politically based decision “ma[de] this community a better place.”
This community would have been best served if the funding had never been reduced in the first place – since it was such a puny contribution of tax dollars to begin with.
The fact that fireworks funding was voted INTO the budget on the same evening that the supervisors refused to take 5% cut out is on the record.
No song and dance or Ch3. 3 news spin about a “holiday drive” can change that.
“And why would anyone wish to remove Alexander’s name from the petition? It would have represented a small victory for those supporting the restoration of fire/ambulance funding to its 2009 level.”
How would that represent a victory?
Isn’t the opposition to CT better served with his name off the list?
From the ePetitions website:
‘When your petition is approved and published you may login to your account and further manage your petition. You may choose to suspend your petition temporarily or to manage the signatures if you wish. The choice is yours.’
Anon (who is probably CT) —
If your theory is correct, then wouldn’t Phil’s and Michelle’s signatures be removed as well? How about Gio D’Amato – TTRC west area chair?
There were comments up there that advocated cutting the fireworks and the fire funding. Wouldn’t those have been deleted as well?
The facts are clear…CT claimed to have signed the petition. General observable fact contradicts that. Therefore, CT is a liar.
John, do you know for a fact that he did not sign the petition?
The only person who knows for certain is the administrator of the petition.
My hunch is that if they are CT haters (like you), after they read his letter to the editor, they saw an opportunity to ‘get him’ and deleted his entry.
There would be no need to remove the others, or any other comments. In fact, leaving the other names on there would help to add credibility to their claims.
Do you know for certain he did sign? What was his #? ate any #’s out of sequence? I was # 14.
Let me know what you find out. While you are at it, ask Warren and Bob why they didn’t sign. It would have made Warren look bad if ct signed and Warren didn’t.
I am very good at connecting the dots.
Cmon dude… Who do you think you are talking to here? I have probably forgotten more of how this game is played than you ever knew.
A few things to clear up… In order for your name to appear on the petition, you had to verify your entry by responding to an email. Otherwise, the petition would be open to spammers.
That said, if CT didn’t verify the entry, there is no way anybody could have recalled seeing his signature. On the other hand, if CT did verify the entry, thus allowing his name to appear, then why are the numbers in sequence. And…why haven’t those who monitored the list, make note of that.
You stack the evidence up – CT didn’t sign the petition.
A resonable person in C.T.’s position would have:
– verified that his name was on the list.
– contact the administrator to find out why his name was not on the list.
– ck his email upon knowing that a confirming email had to be responded to…
– etc..
In my personal experience with CT, he knows perfectly well how Email works….
This is not about CT-hating. You can frame it that way if you want. In evidentiary terms, there is no prior consistent statement to corroborate CT’s claim that he actually signed the petition.
Other observations: Kampf, Lamina, Olson and Richter did not sign the petition either. But…Olson apparently, did donate to the cause. There is a bit of a mixed message here. For CT to have signed and these others to have not signed would have shown a lack of unity.
Just needed to close the loop on the matter.
While the subject of whether C.T.’s signature ever appeared on the e-petition is one that should be put to rest, just a further clarification.
Yesterday I spoke directly to the administrator of the e-petition. She assured me that no one’s name was removed from the list , that she’d welcomed everyone’s support and was happy that it represented a very bi-partisan group.
No, Mr. Alexander’s name never appeared on the list. But the implications of that and other actions by him are now a matter for the TTRC.
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Kate, when can we put the petition to bed? I agree that funding fireworks and funding the fire departments should never be mentioned in the same breath. However, I’m not sure that the two items had that much to do with each other in the final budget process. Whether or not you believe a credible solution was found, the money the fire departments were giiven will spend the same way whether it was tax money or private contributions. Again, difficult times call for difficult solutions/answers. I believe the economy will improve moving forward, (in fact it already is) budgets will become a littler easier to deal with and we will look back at this period as a time the community took it upon itself to help each other without having to look to the government for all the answers.
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Kate, when can we put the petition to bed?
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Why don’t don’t you ask your chair that question? CT brought it up. He got caught in a lie – pure and simple. And now, all of you in the TTRC have to deal with it. Do you have a clue about who it is that sits atop your organization?
Look…nobody made CT write the letter. Then again, nobody forced him to sit with me and allow me to interview him. The arrogance in him is such that he believes he is smarter than everyone else and that he can control things. I can tell you this – he’s not smarter than me. I got him to admit, on the record, that his golden boy Warren Kampf was likely, too conservative to win the 157th. Does that sound like a smart political player to you? Sounds like a dumb one to me. But that’s your guy Jim…I don’t know you personally. But, if you support somebody like CT Alexander, then I don’t have to know you personally. You fit the profile of some others in the TTRC that will subordinate the good of the community to advance the political agenda of a few. I know of good people in the TTRC. The question I have is whether you are one of them.
By the way, if you think the economy is improving right now, then that means you would have to give credit to the Democrats…right???
You keep spouting this whole “government cannot provide all the answers” nonsense. I don’t think anybody here, R or D, expects that. That is more GOP strawman argument tactics. I see through, and most here do as well.
Your defense of the fire fund raising issue as something that was out of the goodness of people’s hearts is absurd. I think you are viewing things through TTRC glasses and it is skewed your vision.
Times could get real difficult if the township had to pay for a fully funded fire department. I would be really careful about giving any credit to Tredyffrin Township or organizations that did not step up and oppose the cuts. Let’s see, even on its best day Tredyffrin gives under $400K to fund its fire service. Estimates would put a fully funded department at many millions. Just as fireworks and fire funding shouldn’t be mentioned in the same breath, neither should the private contributions and the reduction in funding – two totally separate issues. Tredyffrin Township’s government failed. This failure was led by Warren Kampf, plain and simple.
And for CT Alexander to even come close to calling out Bill DeHaven regarding the fire service is unbelievable. I have never been in the presence of such a fraud who has done mroe damage to the Tredyffrin Republican image than anyone could imagine. CT, please do all of the Tredyffrin Republicans a favor and resign your post.
“Tredyffrin Township’s government failed. This failure was led by Warren Kampf, plain and simple.”
Roger, at the risk of beating a dead horse, where is the failure? Or better yet, please give me your definition of failure. I’m sorry but I just don’t get it. I don’t think the majority of T/E residents get it either. In fact, judging by the election results in November – I would guess most think we as a group are on the right track. Saying somethings a failure doesn’t make it one.
>>where is the failure?
1. The former chair used a public meeting for political grand standing. This was likely a violation of the home rule charter.
2. The former chair, along with Lamina and Olson, allowed the BAWG to become a political chess piece – ala St. David’s, lack of disclosure of TTRC members, etc.
3. The BOS, led by Kampf, advanced a budget that on one hand, kept fireworks and on the other hand, cut fire funding
4. There has been on overall degrading of services do to the government’s inability to fund services.
5. The govt continued to over rely on property tax revenues – thereby compromising the gov’t’s ability to properly function.
6. The gov’t lacks a straegic plan.
Gee Jim…. I don’t know where the failure is????? I could go on and on. Heck…I haven’t got to the school board yet…
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I’m sorry but I just don’t get it.
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Jim… I have to agree with you on that one. You don't get it…The election results were about many things – not the least of which is the fact that the TTDC is perhaps, the most incompetent political organization around. R voters voted and D's for the most part, sat on their ass that day. Straight party R's out numbered straight party D's 2:1. There was something like a 30% turnout… Hardly a referendum. Bottom line, people being too stupid to vote does not translate into meaning that guys like Kampf, Lamina and Olson have done a good job. Andy hey, let's forget about competence for a moment. Let's talk about integrity. They don't have any. I would much rather have an honest and not so smart person on the board. With Lamina, Kampf, Olson, and now RIchter, we have a locked in group of 4 that appears to lose on both accounts…
John, I have little doubt that you are more aware of the interworkings of the TTRC then I. As I have previously stated, I am new. Your arguement seems pretty specious though. Politicians grandstanding? Come on, I can’t believe that one! Degradation of services? Inability to see coming economic downtowns?( I need your crystal ball as does the rest of the civilized world). Failure to come up with a “strategic plan”? John , the next thing you know the BOS will tell it’s citizens to just eat cake! I only hope with these failures there aren’t riots on our streets! Seriously, though, when people show up to vote or don’t show up to vote – there is always a reason. The reason the Dems didn’t show up is because the republican led BOS gave them no reason to do so. Things are pretty good and the sky is not falling. Enough said.
P.S. I think politicians get too much credit for a good economy and too much criticism for a bad one. Quite frankly, I don’t think they have all that much to do with the business cycles. I welcome your opinion on that.
Jim,
I agree with your last statement re: credit. As for grandstanding, to some degree, that will also occur. But these guys have gone so far over the line, it begs criticism
As for the crystal ball, I don’t have that. I’ll tell you this, back in 2005 when I was briefly (very briefly) on the BOS, the discussions were ocurring then as to how long the township could realistically rely on transfer taxes to the degree it did/does.
As to the Dems, the GOP gave them plenty of reason to come to the polls. The problem is, the TTDC campaign organization did a poor job supporting its candidates. The TTDC did not hold the BOS and the TTRC accountable. Thats what happened…
Jim and John
I have known John Alexander probably longer then both of you. In watching his behavoir lately, I hope you never get old. It is clear he is losing his faculties and out of respect no one around him is doing anything about it. As a life long republican I think that it may be time to let him go enjoy retirement and let someone else lead the charge before he totally ruins the reputation of the committee. He’s a good guy at heart but he is doing the party damage.
What I can’t understand is why those close to him aren’t looking out for him and checking these confused rants of his before they get out. That I think is a worse indicator of what’s going on internally. You wouldn’t let a drunk get behind the wheel… would you?
It doesn’t take a lot of guts to post anonymously and disparage someones character and or faculties. When do you something like that, it takes away from the good that boards like this provide in sharing ideas and thoughts. I think even John would agree with me on that! Please………let’s keep it above the waist…..or better yet, above the shoulders
>>I have known John Alexander probably longer then both of you.
Actually, CT was my neighbor up on the mountain in mid 70’s. I used to play with his son (also named John).
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In watching his behavoir lately, I hope you never get old. It is clear he is losing his faculties and out of respect no one around him is doing anything about it.
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That is certainly one of the popular theories out there. And yes, he is doing great damage to the party. He's been chair now for about 5 years – since JW died.
Perhaps now – he will be forced to step away from the committee.
You raise interesting points. Why don't you ask Warren Kampf that question? Warren is the closest one to him. Essentially, what you are saying is that Warren is not doing right by CT.
Anon comments iare the true mark of a coward
“Cmon dude… Who do you think you are talking to here? I have probably forgotten more of how this game is played than you ever knew.”
That is why I assume that you are involved in this whole charade.
Anon, Bruce, Fred, Joe, whoever you are, I hope you are not referring to me. I am not part of any charade nor care to be.
“Cmon dude”? “I have probably forgotten more of how this game is played then you ever knew”?
What’s that and who talks like that? Are you part of some covert operation to take down C.T. From the shadows? If you have a problem with the way C.T. Is running things, tell it to his face. Otherwise, please don’t waste our time.
The dude comment was from me. Anon quoted me. The original comment was directed to an anonymous commenter. That person was addressing me… No doubt, it is some TTRC member who does not have the guts to post under his real name.
Wrong again John… I’m not a TTRC member and never have been. I’m just a resident and a voter. My name is of no consequence, as I guarantee that you have never heard of me.